Liveblog of CloudcampMSP 2010



1:32 PM: Minnov8 The Minnov8 Gang is preparing for tonight's Cloudcamp MSP and we should be underway at roughly 6pm tonight so stop back then!
1:40 PM: sborsch Packing up a few tech items (like iPhone battery, camera, microphone, nuclear fission power supply, lead underwear for shielding) in order to be prepared for anything.
1:41 PM: Graeme Thickins 
1:42 PM: Graeme Thickins looking forward to CloudCampMSP at the Microsoft offices in Bloomington...
4:51 PM: Steve Borsch I think I'll bring this up as a topic tonight at CloudCamp: "Apple trying to store your video in the cloud" news.cnet.com
5:44 PM: Graeme Thickins I'm here!  And Steve and Phil just arrived too...
5:48 PM: Steve Borsch 
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5:54 PM: Philson Things are jumpin' at Cloudcamp MSP. The smell of free vittles is wafting through the air. A little nosh and we'll start the show.
5:55 PM: Graeme Thickins where's the beer?  oh, not till later?  never mind...
6:05 PM: Graeme Thickins Steve and Phil are consuming all the free food they can stuff in their faces... I'm waiting (I'm on a later schedule)
6:06 PM: Graeme Thickins 
6:08 PM: Graeme Thickins 
6:17 PM: Minnov8 There is still schmoozing and the consumption of foodstuffs going on. George Reese of enStratus looks like he's about to call the meeting to order.
6:19 PM: Minnov8 Tags (if you're following along) include Twitter: #cloudcamp and Flickr/YouTube: cloudcamp and cloudcampmsp
6:25 PM: Steve Borsch  
6:26 PM: Graeme Thickins I'm lovin' this ScribbleLive iPhone app we started using as of this event .. but we have the app open on our laptops, too.
6:28 PM: Philson  
6:29 PM: Graeme Thickins Getting this party started... George Reese kicking it off.
6:32 PM: Philson Steve "iPhone" Borsch is posting vid directly from his phone. I'm using the flip and uploading to the Minnov8 YouTube channel.
6:34 PM: Philson ReliaCloud is doing their lightning talk. As George Reese noted...we're paying the bills.
6:35 PM: Minnov8 Jason Baker (CTO, Visi who owns ReliaCloud) is outlining their 6 month roadmap
6:35 PM: GraemeThickins Rackspace couldn't make it - but, hey @scobleizer you got a free commercial, anyway, from @georgereese
6:36 PM: Steve Borsch Phil "Flip cam" Wilson is doing the video upload version of the Pony Express.
6:36 PM: Graeme Thickins Jason Baker, CTO of ReliaCloud, says their new public cloud service is adding reseller tools, so they can private-label the service.
6:37 PM: Philson Giddyup!
6:38 PM: Graeme Thickins Promo code for ReliaCloud, $50 account credit: "CloudCampMSP"
6:38 PM: Philson Cloudcamp promo code for ReliaCloud...cloudcampmsp for $50 credited to your new account
6:38 PM: Graeme Thickins 
6:39 PM: Steve Borsch About Phil Wilson: en.wikipedia.org
6:40 PM: Graeme Thickins Love the next Lightning Talk title: "The Cloud Is the Emerald City of IT"... enStratus... George Reese: "where all your hopes and fears are magically realized." lol!
6:40 PM: Steve Borsch 
6:41 PM: Graeme Thickins 
6:42 PM: Graeme Thickins Enstratus provides governance for the cloud...
6:42 PM: Philson Love the ruby slippers...enstratus
6:42 PM: Minnov8 George Reese' profile: www.google.com
6:43 PM: Minnov8 George's company, enStratus: www.enstratus.com
6:43 PM: Graeme Thickins George now showing the enStratus console...
6:44 PM: Steve Borsch The power of enStratus is that they're agnostic when it comes to cloud infrastructure.
6:44 PM: Philson Next up is Microsoft (you may have heard of them) and their lightning talk.
6:45 PM: Graeme Thickins Microsoft's Azure evangelist up now, Jeff Brand... talked at last year's event, too -- but now Azure is into full production.
6:45 PM: Graeme Thickins 
6:47 PM: Steve Borsch MSFT's Jeff Brand is talking about their platform as a "pure structure play" and they're building over 100 data centers around the globe
6:48 PM: Philson New Microsoft data center about to go online in Des Moines...Iowa...no kidding.
6:48 PM: Graeme Thickins Microsoft has more than 100 data centers being built right now for the cloud... closest one to us in Chicago, also one coming on in Iowa.  What's in beta now is SQLserver.
6:50 PM: Steve Borsch Coming next is AppFabric provides secure connectivity as a service to help developers bridge cloud, on-premises, and hosted deployments. More here: msdn.microsoft.com
6:51 PM: Philson Chomping at the bit...let's talk cloud!!!
6:52 PM: Graeme Thickins Last five-minute talk is Reside, cloud services firm based here in Twin Cities. Practice areas: CRM, Social CRM, and AppDev.
6:53 PM: Philson Reside has worked with Starbucks and the Obama-Biden transition team.
6:53 PM: Steve Borsch Reside, LLC is one of those 'quiet companies' doing great things. Alot of work is on Salesforce and that company sees Reside as an exponentially growing player: www.reside.biz
6:55 PM: Steve Borsch In fact, they're the largest Salesforce shop in Minnesota.
6:55 PM: GraemeThickins we're live-blogging #cloudcampMSP here: minnov8.com (three of us from @Minnov8) #cloudcamp
6:56 PM: Steve Borsch Eric Scheel presented for Reside. CTO/Co-Founder.
6:58 PM: Philson Graeme has now crossed from reporter to participant at cloudcamp
7:00 PM: Philson Members of the audience who use the cloud in various ways are sharing their experiences.
7:03 PM: Graeme Thickins 
7:03 PM: Graeme Thickins I'm on the panel now ...
7:05 PM: Steve Borsch 
7:09 PM: Steve Borsch A survey of 150 information technology decision makers at small and large companies across the country by ReliaCloud, a national IT infrastructure company based in Minneapolis, found that three-quarters of companies identified the development of cloud computing as a priority for 2010.The ReliaCloud survey included 150 professionals who held positions of CXOs, owners, president, vice president or technical decision makers. Roughly three-quarters of the decision makers were familiar with cloud computing and identified cloud computing as a priority among their organization's leadership. A majority (85.3%) of decision makers were either currently implementing cloud computing services or had plans to do so within the next 12 months. bsminfo.com
7:18 PM: Philson Ongoing discussion of cloud computing...what will it's impact be on fortune 1000-2000 companies.
7:19 PM: Steve Borsch Interesting discussion and questions about cloud computing. Just now a question on compliance issues and legal ones related to data in the cloud, etc.
7:25 PM: Philson Topics for discussion being selected for the rest of CloudCampMSP...Legal issues in the cloud...Engineering the moving of applications between cloud services being considered...understanding service applications in the cloud....
7:28 PM: Philson ...architecting for the cloud...impact of mobile computing in the cloud...security in the cloud...
7:28 PM: Philson ...private clouds and how to build them....
7:32 PM: Graeme Thickins 
7:33 PM: Graeme Thickins Scheduling the breakout sessions and topics....
7:38 PM: Graeme Thickins 
7:41 PM: Graeme Thickins Now breaking before we start the breakout sessions....
7:43 PM: Graeme Thickins I'm in the session on Legal Issues in the Cloud.
7:46 PM: Philson Covering Architecting (new word) for the cloud....
7:50 PM: Graeme Thickins David Bagley of enStratus says his firm tells all its customers that the cloud is a hostile environment, and everything should be encrypted.
7:50 PM: Philson Seeking some sort of standardization across cloud platforms. Current differences that exclude easy export of API's and database services.
7:53 PM: Philson Importance of keeping needed services (Database and PHP) within the same data center. Some instance of "cross country hops" where multiple "trips" cause lag times.
7:54 PM: Philson Cloud caching has now been coined...avoid latency issues.
7:56 PM: Steve Borsch Session about cloud computing options. George Reese lays out the layers of the cloud: SaaS; PaaS (platform as a service); IaaS (infrastructure); Virtualization
7:57 PM: Steve Borsch 
7:58 PM: Steve Borsch The punch line to the cloud computing joke? It's a challenge to buy cloud services since the space isn't mature
7:58 PM: Philson @Steve Borsch Ha-ha?
7:59 PM: Steve Borsch 
7:59 PM: Philson Cloud computing creates a "new art" in thinking about architecture.
8:01 PM: Graeme Thickins Discussion now is going to public vs. private clouds, as relates sensitive data. PCI compliance requires private instance, says one participant. Others aren't ready to sell public cloud services so short, since data can be encrypted.
8:05 PM: Philson From a system administrator perspective regarding cloud computing..you don't need to do anything when there is a problem and there's nothing you can do when there is a problem.
8:08 PM: Philson Loadstorm.com allows load management of cloud platforms.
8:09 PM: Philson Browsermob also provides some load management.
8:15 PM: Graeme Thickins The issue of security with the cloud tends to stay at the top of the list of concerns because it can involve mistakes that require "doing time".... if there's a chance of "spending 10 years in the pokey, it gets your attention."
8:29 PM: Steve Borsch 
8:33 PM: Graeme Thickins 
8:34 PM: Graeme Thickins Mobile in the cloud session is next for me.... but wait - Phil already covered this one. Hmmm.
8:35 PM: Steve Borsch 
8:37 PM: Philson Mobile in the cloud topics...bandwidth, using the cloud to support apps, carriere dependence, client definition.
8:44 PM: Philson Bandwidth a consideration when building a mobile app?
8:46 PM: Geoff @Graeme Is there anyway to have a "virtual private instance"? (Kind of defeats the purpose I know...)
8:47 PM: Graeme Thickins @Geoff interesting question - I'll pose it and get back to you
8:50 PM: Steve Borsch  
9:01 PM: Graeme Thickins 
9:04 PM: Graeme Thickins Discussion now is around getting data into Azure... data migration tools are still pretty primitive. Pricing is per transfer and monthly per Gb. But no charge for off-peak data transfers until June 30.
9:07 PM: Graeme Thickins SQL Azure team is well behind where Azure fabric team is... says Jeff Brand.
9:20 PM: Graeme Thickins 
9:25 PM: Graeme Thickins @Geoff what exactly do you mean by a virtual private instance?
9:26 PM: Steve Borsch 
9:47 PM: Graeme Thickins  
9:49 PM: Graeme Thickins Reception time! It was a great cloud camp....thanks to @georgereese and sponsors including enStratus and ReliaCloud.
9:50 PM: Steve Borsch Yeah....thanks for a great CloudCampMSP George and sponsors!
10:49 PM: GraemeThickins so funny..as we left #cloudcamp we went to open door to parking ramp & doorknob came off! we all looked at ea other & said "cloud lock-in!"